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#1 banj0

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 07:43 AM

After way too long I fired Skype up tonight in order to thank MO for helping with my .avi thing and get back to conversing with tech friends (MO, Nvy, Scara, Christo, Roady, Talker, hog, Tweak, etc.) that, in all honesty, I've neglected for a good while. Been playing games, watching TV, whatever. Been distracted.

And now comes a post that is probably out-of-line but is, at the same time, well-intentioned. It's my weekend too so I'm a bit buzzed. lol.

In most of my years I've never been the kind of person that would ever equate stuff in real life with stuff that happens online. I'm not real old but I remember the Usenet arguments that predate the web and, I guess, having those Sans Serif wars makes skin get thicker, experiences online soften and most arguments and fights get relegated to that part of our brain where we send our earliest memories of arguing over the ball when we're 6 years old.

To my chagrin, those early text wars, at least in my experience, didn't thicken the skin and the immediacy and intimacy of today's WWW tended to heighten the nerves of those of us that were around back then and instead of letting things roll off the back, I've noticed that I've been getting more angry and reactionary because of them. I see now that I'm not alone. Take it from me, without apologies and acceptances in the world, online and off, life is just not as bright. And that's a fact. Don't take my word, you can see it all the f over.

I'm a perfect example. If some anon or new member at a forum that I frequent posts something with which I disagree, I'll be the most polite, self-aggrandizing, modest poster there. If someone I know from online posts something with which I disagree, no punches will be pulled, I'll happily accuse them of having a hyena for a mother, and, more than likely, I'll accuse them of either being born from Hitler or a close relative. The reason? Because online, it just doesn't matter. All bets are off.

Therein lies the difference. Online, things are different. People state their true feelings and show everybody, ironically, their true self without showing themselves at all. Weird how that works.

But, most importantly, at the end of the day, friends are friends on any level. They will make you happy, they'll make you sad, they'll make you mad, and, lots of times, you will have to wonder just why the hell you love that person. If they're really a friend, that last question is more rhetorical and nothing will break the bond.

And therein lies, I hope, a reason that two certain members of our site, both of whom I consider friends, might be able to get past typed words, posts, arguments, etc., and remember that no matter how big an argument becomes online, it is bound to be----no, scratch that------it IS so much smaller if those words were said in person. It's the nature of communication.

The internet has made the world much, much smaller. imho, that's a great thing. The bad thing is that, online, there is no difference between intent and inference. That's a bad thing. It causes fights online.

But not in real life. And, if you guys come back togehter, I promise to at least try and take my own advice. :rofl_mini: :D ;)

Edited by banj0, 10 April 2009 - 08:11 AM.


#2 Christopholofigus

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 09:24 AM

So true my friend...so very true. That is why I have such an addiction to the net, because I can just be. :D

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 12:11 PM

Hi banj0, in what you say I have to agree. The lack of face to face contact (confrontation?) allows us to possess a greater degree of boldness that, face to face, we may think about twice. But this lack of confrontation also allows us a greater use of truth or honest expression, or at least as each of us sees that truth. We know there is little chance of retribution for our honesty except another clacking of the keyboard and a typed response. Clacking keys do not have the same affect as swinging fists. However, as with many new things, we humans get carried away until we get used to this new freedom. We find ourselves, perhaps, over expressing our honesty because we can. The more that we use this new found freedom it will hopefully regulate itself to a level of honest sincerity that is still true but maybe not so dynamic. We must also caution oursleves that we don't use this new power with our face to face encounters. The results could be a bit more dramatic than clacking keys. We, as a species have had such a hard time with the expression of truth and honesty that we have almost forgotten how to express ourselves. We have even invented terms to cover our lack of honesty such as "politically correct". The bottom line is perhaps this...if something isn't true then it is false. Another and more direct way is to say it is a lie. It is simple, if it isn't true, then it is a lie. And somewhere someone came up with the idea that the truth needs to be pretty or attractive...why? There are many truths that we accept that are not pretty yet they are still true. Why can't our self expressions be the same?

Perhaps in time we will become accustomed to expressing truth and sincere feelings to the point that it will once again be the norm with less concern as to what is "politically correct". The internet has made the world much smaller and perhaps enabled us to be a bit more bolder and honest. May we grow from this experience and evolve to a higher plain...Bill.

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 03:25 PM

:D well put Banj, but let me concise the whole issue if I may, u 2 turdheads (yeah u know who u are) are def my friends now quit bein goofy and get over it......remember, we're all Bozo's on this bus......so don't make me have to spank u two :rofl_mini: ;)

Edited by stormrosson, 10 April 2009 - 03:26 PM.


#5 m.oreilly

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 04:49 PM

whatever happened, i'm glad i missed it...i'm afraid to ask...what happened :D

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 05:11 AM

View Postm.oreilly, on Apr 10 2009, 12:49 PM, said:

whatever happened, i'm glad i missed it...i'm afraid to ask...what happened :D

:rofl_mini:

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 05:44 AM

View Posteniparadoxgma, on Apr 10 2009, 10:11 PM, said:

:D
:rofl_mini:

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 07:30 PM

View Postm.oreilly, on Apr 11 2009, 01:44 AM, said:

:rofl_mini:

:D

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 11:09 PM

I have no clue what this is about either. Saves me from being an a$$hole, but I do kinda feel like a donkey now...

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 11:25 PM

View PostSphere, on Apr 11 2009, 04:09 PM, said:

...I do kinda feel like a donkey now...
please, no mention of animal husbandry... :D

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 11:31 PM

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 10:42 AM

*ahem*

The cake is a lie?

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 04:59 PM

View Postm.oreilly, on Apr 10 2009, 09:49 AM, said:

whatever happened, i'm glad i missed it...i'm afraid to ask...what happened :D


I'm glad I'm not the only one.
WOW- miss a couple days and you can miss allot. :rofl_mini:

That was a very nice statement, Banjo.
Yep, the internet really does away with the inhabitations, doesn't it!

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 05:32 PM

:D Well it looks like Rik deleted himself from the board after the discourse between a few friends on skype a couple nites ago............and of course it's what Banj was referencing in his post, me too btw, Dave needs to have a chat with Rik , MO and Rik both need to quit gettin hammered and then bein a bit hmmmmmmmmmmm let's say "unthoughtful" ......maybe a bit rude to other guys on skype and here, and for god's sake grow up a little .....that goes for most of us on the skype chat (myself included)....now the crap is in the open for all to read. Rik get your mangy scottish ass back here pronto u dufus.......just what I think today as I'm in a kinda crappy mood but I still mean what I said :rofl_mini:

Edited by stormrosson, 12 April 2009 - 05:34 PM.


#15 m.oreilly

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 05:56 PM

utter poetry to my ears there, strom...you are correct sir :D




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